[Cgatto01]

Firenews and massfiretrucks are reporting that Boston has placed a new Ladder 6 into service. I am wondering what ladder trucks will be replaced next? I see that there is about 8 ladder trucks that should be replaced. Does anyone know if the rest of the oldier ladder trucks will be replaced this year or anytime in the next few years to come.

[AWS0019]

Cgatto01, on 29 January 2010 - 10:13 PM, said:

Firenews and massfiretrucks are reporting that Boston has placed a new Ladder 6 into service. I am wondering what ladder trucks will be replaced next? I see that there is about 8 ladder trucks that should be replaced. Does anyone know if the rest of the oldier ladder trucks will be replaced this year or anytime in the next few years to come.

SOlsonBFDL14
Rescue 2 is scheduled be be in service before the end of this year. Bids just opened for 3 new pumpers and 2 new ladders to be delivered in 2010. I saw the bid sheet at E29/L11 Thursday night. As for the low profile ladders, as far as I know they're scheduled to be assigned to Ladder 25 (almost 100% certain) and Ladder 6

pumper bids went to kme

This post has been edited by AWS0019: 30 January 2010 - 01:49 PM

[SOlsonBFDL14]

The rumor mill holds that Ladders 4 & 14 will be receiving the next two E-One's, scheduled for a Summer 2010 delivery. Time will tell if that is in fact true.

[SOlsonBFDL14]

AWS0019, on 30 January 2010 - 08:48 AM, said:

SOlsonBFDL14
Rescue 2 is scheduled be be in service before the end of this year. Bids just opened for 3 new pumpers and 2 new ladders to be delivered in 2010. I saw the bid sheet at E29/L11 Thursday night. As for the low profile ladders, as far as I know they're scheduled to be assigned to Ladder 25 (almost 100% certain) and Ladder 6

Rescue 2 will be in service any day now. As far as I know it is at HQ. Ladder 6 is definately at HQ and will go into service any day now. Engines 21 & 24 are receiving new E-One pumpers, they are currently at Greenwood I believe. Ladder 24 is receiving the other new E-One ladder, that is due to the fact that the Aid To Firefighters Grant we received HAS to be used on Ladder 24. I believe that Ladder 24's current piece will be referbed and assigned to Ladder 25, but who knows?

[Cgatto01]

Am I to asume that the Boston Fire Dept. Is going to replace all the oldier ladder trucks within the next year or two?

[SOlsonBFDL14]

Cgatto01, on 30 January 2010 - 11:35 AM, said:

Am I to asume that the Boston Fire Dept. Is going to replace all the oldier ladder trucks within the next year or two?

Not sure what the next year's budget looks like yet. Still have quite a few older trucks in need of replacement (Ladders 4, 14, 19, 21, 23, 25 & 29). Probably take 3-4 years.

[skipatrol8]

Any input on the switch in body types between the new E-One engines, and the ones that were delivered last year (high side compartments on the new ones, etc).

[kdwmaemt]

While you answering questions Skip, Ill ask you this here as well. Whats the deal with the long cab on L6 and Im assuming L24 ?(since I havent actually seen it yet, Ill assume its identical) All the previous E-One ladders all have the short cab. I would have thought they'd keep with the short cab to shorten the wheelbase. These 2 trucks must be a good 2 feet longer, if not more, than previously delivered units. Doesnt make sense if you ask me, but hey, I dont work there so what do I know.

This post has been edited by kdwmaemt: 01 February 2010 - 04:11 AM

[PCC]

Kevin,

You are very observant to spot that. I wouldn't have noticed it if you hadn't pointed it out. I see what you mean when I went back and looked at the picture and compared the '10s and '09's.

I know there are a lot of options with those cabs related to length, height, number and arrangement of jump seats, storage cabinets, etc. On my former dept, the last new Pierce before I "retired" had the raised roof. While it did offer a little more head room and made getting in and out of the back easier, I always found the standard height to be more than adequate.

Phil

[SOlsonBFDL14]

kdwmaemt, on 31 January 2010 - 11:10 PM, said:

While you answering questions Skip, Ill ask you this here as well. Whats the deal with the long cab on L6 and Im assuming L24 ?(since I havent actually seen it yet, Ill assume its identical) All the previous E-One ladders all have the short cab. I would have thought they'd keep with the short cab to shorten the wheelbase. These 2 trucks must be a good 2 feet longer, if not more, than previously delivered units. Doesnt make sense if you ask me, but hey, I dont work there so what do I know.

The specification was changed between 2009 & 2010 to reduce the height of the rigs, which was deemed more important due to the age and size of many of our houses. As I'm sure you remember Ladder 11 got Ladder 1's Pierce instead of a brand new E-One because the new E-One wouldn't fit in E29/L11's quarters due to the slope of the apron. The new Ladder 6 & 24 are now 10'11", which is what we'd need in order to fit under the Soldiers Field Road bridges as well. I believe the 2008-09 models were closer to 11'4".

[kdwmaemt]

SOlsonBFDL14, on 02 February 2010 - 04:24 PM, said:

The specification was changed between 2009 & 2010 to reduce the height of the rigs, which was deemed more important due to the age and size of many of our houses. As I'm sure you remember Ladder 11 got Ladder 1's Pierce instead of a brand new E-One because the new E-One wouldn't fit in E29/L11's quarters due to the slope of the apron. The new Ladder 6 & 24 are now 10'11", which is what we'd need in order to fit under the Soldiers Field Road bridges as well. I believe the 2008-09 models were closer to 11'4".

I dont like the look of the long cab, but hey, its about functionality and duribility, not looks. Maybe its just me, but aside from the notched out roof, it looks as though the cab either sits on the frame a couple inches lower, or is just outright a couple inches lower. If thats the case, I can definately see going with the long cab as it makes up for the lack of space in the rear. Wouldnt want you guys riding around feeling like your stuffed in like sardines right!!!

This post has been edited by kdwmaemt: 03 February 2010 - 09:50 PM

[tacems]

If anyone ins interested there is a pic of the new L-24 on "massfiretrucks.com" Looks like it's set to go!

[SOlsonBFDL14]

tacems, on 05 February 2010 - 02:36 PM, said:

If anyone ins interested there is a pic of the new L-24 on "massfiretrucks.com" Looks like it's set to go!

Along with pics of Engines 21 & 24 and Ladder 6. All should be in the field this month. Ladder 24 arrived from Ocala within the past couple of weeks.

[Cgatto01]

I am just wondering something. Right now how does the Boston Fire Department decide what ladder trucks are due to be replaced. Is it the year of the truck or the miles on it and does this rule apply to the einges also?

This post has been edited by Cgatto01: 06 February 2010 - 03:28 PM

[UH1H]

Cgatto01, on 06 February 2010 - 10:28 AM, said:

I am just wondering something. Right now how does the Boston Fire Department decide what ladder trucks are due to be replaced. Is it the year of the truck or the miles on it and does this rule apply to the einges also?

For the last 20 years, Time decided which company received a new piece. With larger apparatus and no new firehouses in decades, size has been a determining factor. But latest rumor has the new apparatus going to the busier companies with their used vehicles cascading down to the slower companies. This unfortunately leads to not taking care of a truck because you know you'll get a new one anyway. Kinds like the Guard getting the active Army's used crap.

[Cgatto01]

I am just wondering whatever happen to the tiller truck Boston was going to be getting. Are they getting it still or what is going on with that.

[kdwmaemt]

Cgatto01, on 08 February 2010 - 12:22 PM, said:

I am just wondering whatever happen to the tiller truck Boston was going to be getting. Are they getting it still or what is going on with that.

No tiller.....I repeat, NO TILLER!!! There was a plan, several times, to get one or two, but every time it was about to come to frution, it fell apart for whatever reason. Thats why L24 is about to get their new piece. The grant that was applied for by Boston Fire was specifically to get a tiller for L24. But when that plan fell apart for a number of different reasons, from training to builder to cost etc., the Feds allowed the city to keep the grant money to buy a rearmount...as long as it went to L24. Hense the reason they are getting a new truck soon.

So in essence, the tiller idea is on life support AT BEST. Its pretty much dead, but you never know if it will creap up again sometime in the future. But for now, you wont see a tillered aerial riding the streets of Boston.

[Cgatto01]

I am shocked that some fire truck company does not give the city a lonier to just try it out until the L24 comes in and is ready for service. I know that however it happen E41 got a truck from some where until there truck was ready for service.